Our guests, Dave Ulrich & Norm Smallwood purport to have found “The Leadership Code.” As they point out in their book, The Leadership Code: Five Rules to Lead By, the leadership code, like any other code, provides both structure and guidance and helps you know not only what to do to be a better individual leader but also how to build better leadership capabilities. Dave & Norm are co-founders of The RBL Group, a global professional services firm committed to creating value through the effective management of people and organizations. Their clients include top companies throughout the world and they are recognized as the trusted advisors to the world’s top HR leaders and their senior executives.








